*MEGA sigh* they are also protesting his award of an honorary degree. Plus side: the administration has refused to reconsider. So...(slightly) Go Irish!
No way they back down now. Seniors and upper classmen are protesting to keep him coming. More so then the ones to keep him from coming. Remember, we have a Dem controlled house now!
Notre Dame is actually the hero in this story: Yes the Catholic diosese are throwing a fit about Obama's stances, but it's not changing the attitudes of the school or the president of the university, who could very easily fold under pressure but aren't. Say what you want about Catholics, but according to the Journal-Gazette, a very high percentage of the student populus and of the graduating seniors are excited about Obama giving the commencement. And Notre Dame is doing the right thing by giving Obama the same treatment the last nine presidents have gotten. Not surprising that a Purdue alum couldn't read any deeper than the first few lines of an article.
Oh dear. Please tell me I'm not going to have to mediate an international incident here;-) I'm glad the ND brass is sticking to its guns, but honestly after all the--even recent--scandals that have been coming to light concerning the Catholic Church, you think they'd have more sense than to lay into the guy that so much of the world actually *likes* right now. OTOH, I guess it can be said that the HC people are not being hypocritical haters.
as a former cathoholic, I completely stand behind a "fuck those morons" attitude. I couldn't possibly follow a religion that was headed by Darth Sideous. I was just defending ND, because they actually are doing the right thing, even in the face of the catholick church. You know me, I just feel that blame and accolades need to go where they deserve, and if ND were to back down on this issue, I'm willing to put my lifelong fandom of that school behind me and never watch college football again. If you doubt how big a deal that is, ask my mom.
No, no, I believe you. And no worries; I'm as much at fault for leaving anonymous commenting enabled. (I mean, it's not like anyone who doesn't already know me reads this lj...) I think the RC Church is starting to be split along the same fault lines as is the Episcopal/Anglican Church. Only in the RC case it's internal and largely organic, while in the E/AC case, it's fundies coming in from outside and actively trying to destroy an entire denomination because it's "too" liberal.
When I was a crazy Pentecostal they told me that the Catholics had a prophesy that the next pope would be evil. How cool would that be? Especially if people recognized that. I wonder how much influence the RC church actually has on people's votes and things. They take credit for boning Kerry, but I think Kerry boned Kerry.
Oh Kerry definitely boned Kerry. That's what you get for sucking Karl Rove's cock when you're supposed to be running against everything he stands for.
But everything I've seen leads me to believe the RC church has a *lot* of influence on people's votes. If I'm remembering correctly, the Vatican didn't even have an embassy in the States until the '70s, but when the pope visited D.C. in '08 I had to take a 45-minute detour on my way home because they shut down the streets outside of his embassy. That shit doesn't happen for any other foreign dignitaries, to the best of my knowledge.
Plus, they stay at their embassy residences, not across from the freaking Vice President's residence.
And I hate to say this, but I think the Pentecostals might be on to something. I mean, you can't get much more evil than a member of the Hitler Youth who "accidentally" pardons Holocaust deniers while running an organization that excommunicates members for offering mercy abortions to nine year old rape victims (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/28/world/americas/28brazil.html?hpw) but not her stepfather, who raped her.
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But everything I've seen leads me to believe the RC church has a *lot* of influence on people's votes. If I'm remembering correctly, the Vatican didn't even have an embassy in the States until the '70s, but when the pope visited D.C. in '08 I had to take a 45-minute detour on my way home because they shut down the streets outside of his embassy. That shit doesn't happen for any other foreign dignitaries, to the best of my knowledge.
Plus, they stay at their embassy residences, not across from the freaking Vice President's residence.
And I hate to say this, but I think the Pentecostals might be on to something. I mean, you can't get much more evil than a member of the Hitler Youth who "accidentally" pardons Holocaust deniers while running an organization that excommunicates members for offering mercy abortions to nine year old rape victims (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/28/world/americas/28brazil.html?hpw) but not her stepfather, who raped her.
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